RE: Nottingham Forest - Southampton - wassy04 - 09-05-2023
Just put it on another thread but can I just say how well Worrall did playing as a makeshift right back. Was really handy having that extra height at the back too. I'd of thought we'd switch to a back three next weekend again although if Aurier is out no idea who plays RWB. Any guesses? Brennan maybe? Danilo?
RE: Nottingham Forest - Southampton - oh no - 09-05-2023
(09-05-2023, 11:46 AM)wassy04 Wrote: Just put it on another thread but can I just say how well Worrall did playing as a makeshift right back. Was really handy having that extra height at the back too. I'd of thought we'd switch to a back three next weekend again although if Aurier is out no idea who plays RWB. Any guesses? Brennan maybe? Danilo?
Kouyate had a (not very successful) spell at right back for West Ham back in 2017:
![[Image: a1eLEUR.png]](https://i.imgur.com/a1eLEUR.png)
But i'd rather play Joe there - he seemed to fit in and enjoyed pressing a bit higher than usual imo
RE: Nottingham Forest - Southampton - zicorice - 09-05-2023
Well no one saw that coming!! We are still fighting.
Positives:
- Obviously 3 points
- Danilo. 1 goal 1 assist and 1 secondary assist. This boy is going to be the real deal.
- Jonno looked dangerous all night, great assist for 1st goal and won a penalty with his sharpness.
- Taiwo....this is the finisher we thought we were getting. So pleased for him.
- MGW: You have to take the rough with the smooth with a mercurial talent, who is still so young. Contributed in giving away a goal and nearly another 2nd half, but balls of steel for pen and what an assist.
- Navas: I always feel opposition target him with crosses into box and Ward Prowse delivery was exquisite. He got something on everything he should. Defence let him down quite alot though. His kicking was 12 inches from being perfect, but instead gave away throw ins on half way a few times.
- Yates is back. Took a while to get up to speed, but no coincidence that Mangala looked a very good player tonight.Just does what he does and allows those around him to play better.
- Boly is back. I'd 100% start him on Saturday.
- Worrall: Dropped I think 5 or 6 times now, the last 3 to accommodate Niakhate (once McKenna came in and Worrall may not have been well enough to start). But since selection against Villa he has not put a foot wrong when called upon. Last night he looked like he'd played RB all his life.
- Felipe: This guy! Seems odd to praise a CB after conceding 3 at home but he is immense. Carries Niakhate somewhat at present. So wish his goal had been onside.
- Kouyate: Arguably cost us 3 points last week (we will never know) but came on and was excellent. Played a key part in 4th goal.
- Cooper: Got everything right last Night Selection tactics subs.
Negatives:
- Another set piece goal (though Yates indicated he was elbowed before corner came in).
- Stupid individual errors again. When will these stop?
- I am increasingly worried about Niakhate. The basics of head it and kick it seem to go wrong too often (throw it seems OK though). Felipe seems to cover his little mistakes so often. He backs off and for all his alledged pace it always seems his man gets away from him. For a supposed "beast" he loses too many physical confrontations and slides on his backside too often when no need. Perhaps he will adjust, but if we go down on GD, that f#(King stupid penalty against Newcastle is the costliest of many costly mistakes individuals have made this season. That's all a bit harsh as he can have spells in games where he looks very solid and is good at getting a foot in front of opposition receiving ball. Hopefully, he will iron out these things to become a very good player-he clearly cares.
All to play for then. Hopefully no more knocks last night and we can get something at Chelsea other than a hard luck story or what might have been but for stupid individual errors
RE: Nottingham Forest - Southampton - DeesideRed - 09-05-2023
I thought that we started extremely nervous, obviously evidenced by Niakhate taking all of 1 minute to slice a clearance. Very fortunate that Southampton gave us time to find our feet and then we were flying.
The biggest issue is the goals conceded again all came from basic individual errors, albeit im not having that penalty on Lavia.
A chelsea tools-down would be nice on sat. No-one wants to go to the unpredictable palace needing a result.
RE: Nottingham Forest - Southampton - wassy04 - 09-05-2023
(09-05-2023, 12:22 PM)zicorice Wrote: Well no one saw that coming!! We are still fighting.
Positives:
- Obviously 3 points
- Danilo. 1 goal 1 assist and 1 secondary assist. This boy is going to be the real deal.
- Jonno looked dangerous all night, great assist for 1st goal and won a penalty with his sharpness.
- Taiwo....this is the finisher we thought we were getting. So pleased for him.
- MGW: You have to take the rough with the smooth with a mercurial talent, who is still so young. Contributed in giving away a goal and nearly another 2nd half, but balls of steel for pen and what an assist.
- Navas: I always feel opposition target him with crosses into box and Ward Prowse delivery was exquisite. He got something on everything he should. Defence let him down quite alot though. His kicking was 12 inches from being perfect, but instead gave away throw ins on half way a few times.
- Yates is back. Took a while to get up to speed, but no coincidence that Mangala looked a very good player tonight.Just does what he does and allows those around him to play better.
- Boly is back. I'd 100% start him on Saturday.
- Worrall: Dropped I think 5 or 6 times now, the last 3 to accommodate Niakhate (once McKenna came in and Worrall may not have been well enough to start). But since selection against Villa he has not put a foot wrong when called upon. Last night he looked like he'd played RB all his life.
- Felipe: This guy! Seems odd to praise a CB after conceding 3 at home but he is immense. Carries Niakhate somewhat at present. So wish his goal had been onside.
- Kouyate: Arguably cost us 3 points last week (we will never know) but came on and was excellent. Played a key part in 4th goal.
- Cooper: Got everything right last Night Selection tactics subs.
Negatives:
- Another set piece goal (though Yates indicated he was elbowed before corner came in).
- Stupid individual errors again. When will these stop?
- I am increasingly worried about Niakhate. The basics of head it and kick it seem to go wrong too often (throw it seems OK though). Felipe seems to cover his little mistakes so often. He backs off and for all his alledged pace it always seems his man gets away from him. For a supposed "beast" he loses too many physical confrontations and slides on his backside too often when no need. Perhaps he will adjust, but if we go down on GD, that f#(King stupid penalty against Newcastle is the costliest of many costly mistakes individuals have made this season. That's all a bit harsh as he can have spells in games where he looks very solid and is good at getting a foot in front of opposition receiving ball. Hopefully, he will iron out these things to become a very good player-he clearly cares.
All to play for then. Hopefully no more knocks last night and we can get something at Chelsea other than a hard luck story or what might have been but for stupid individual errors
You reckon Boly comes in for Niakhate then? We'd miss those long throws.
RE: Nottingham Forest - Southampton - Paplane - 09-05-2023
(09-05-2023, 12:47 PM)wassy04 Wrote: (09-05-2023, 12:22 PM)zicorice Wrote: Well no one saw that coming!! We are still fighting.
Positives:
- Obviously 3 points
- Danilo. 1 goal 1 assist and 1 secondary assist. This boy is going to be the real deal.
- Jonno looked dangerous all night, great assist for 1st goal and won a penalty with his sharpness.
- Taiwo....this is the finisher we thought we were getting. So pleased for him.
- MGW: You have to take the rough with the smooth with a mercurial talent, who is still so young. Contributed in giving away a goal and nearly another 2nd half, but balls of steel for pen and what an assist.
- Navas: I always feel opposition target him with crosses into box and Ward Prowse delivery was exquisite. He got something on everything he should. Defence let him down quite alot though. His kicking was 12 inches from being perfect, but instead gave away throw ins on half way a few times.
- Yates is back. Took a while to get up to speed, but no coincidence that Mangala looked a very good player tonight.Just does what he does and allows those around him to play better.
- Boly is back. I'd 100% start him on Saturday.
- Worrall: Dropped I think 5 or 6 times now, the last 3 to accommodate Niakhate (once McKenna came in and Worrall may not have been well enough to start). But since selection against Villa he has not put a foot wrong when called upon. Last night he looked like he'd played RB all his life.
- Felipe: This guy! Seems odd to praise a CB after conceding 3 at home but he is immense. Carries Niakhate somewhat at present. So wish his goal had been onside.
- Kouyate: Arguably cost us 3 points last week (we will never know) but came on and was excellent. Played a key part in 4th goal.
- Cooper: Got everything right last Night Selection tactics subs.
Negatives:
- Another set piece goal (though Yates indicated he was elbowed before corner came in).
- Stupid individual errors again. When will these stop?
- I am increasingly worried about Niakhate. The basics of head it and kick it seem to go wrong too often (throw it seems OK though). Felipe seems to cover his little mistakes so often. He backs off and for all his alledged pace it always seems his man gets away from him. For a supposed "beast" he loses too many physical confrontations and slides on his backside too often when no need. Perhaps he will adjust, but if we go down on GD, that f#(King stupid penalty against Newcastle is the costliest of many costly mistakes individuals have made this season. That's all a bit harsh as he can have spells in games where he looks very solid and is good at getting a foot in front of opposition receiving ball. Hopefully, he will iron out these things to become a very good player-he clearly cares.
All to play for then. Hopefully no more knocks last night and we can get something at Chelsea other than a hard luck story or what might have been but for stupid individual errors
You reckon Boly comes in for Niakhate then? We'd miss those long throws.
Too soon for Boly, surely? Niakhate's been up and down but its too soon for Boly.
RE: Nottingham Forest - Southampton - wassy04 - 09-05-2023
(09-05-2023, 01:17 PM)Paplane Wrote: (09-05-2023, 12:47 PM)wassy04 Wrote: (09-05-2023, 12:22 PM)zicorice Wrote: Well no one saw that coming!! We are still fighting.
Positives:
- Obviously 3 points
- Danilo. 1 goal 1 assist and 1 secondary assist. This boy is going to be the real deal.
- Jonno looked dangerous all night, great assist for 1st goal and won a penalty with his sharpness.
- Taiwo....this is the finisher we thought we were getting. So pleased for him.
- MGW: You have to take the rough with the smooth with a mercurial talent, who is still so young. Contributed in giving away a goal and nearly another 2nd half, but balls of steel for pen and what an assist.
- Navas: I always feel opposition target him with crosses into box and Ward Prowse delivery was exquisite. He got something on everything he should. Defence let him down quite alot though. His kicking was 12 inches from being perfect, but instead gave away throw ins on half way a few times.
- Yates is back. Took a while to get up to speed, but no coincidence that Mangala looked a very good player tonight.Just does what he does and allows those around him to play better.
- Boly is back. I'd 100% start him on Saturday.
- Worrall: Dropped I think 5 or 6 times now, the last 3 to accommodate Niakhate (once McKenna came in and Worrall may not have been well enough to start). But since selection against Villa he has not put a foot wrong when called upon. Last night he looked like he'd played RB all his life.
- Felipe: This guy! Seems odd to praise a CB after conceding 3 at home but he is immense. Carries Niakhate somewhat at present. So wish his goal had been onside.
- Kouyate: Arguably cost us 3 points last week (we will never know) but came on and was excellent. Played a key part in 4th goal.
- Cooper: Got everything right last Night Selection tactics subs.
Negatives:
- Another set piece goal (though Yates indicated he was elbowed before corner came in).
- Stupid individual errors again. When will these stop?
- I am increasingly worried about Niakhate. The basics of head it and kick it seem to go wrong too often (throw it seems OK though). Felipe seems to cover his little mistakes so often. He backs off and for all his alledged pace it always seems his man gets away from him. For a supposed "beast" he loses too many physical confrontations and slides on his backside too often when no need. Perhaps he will adjust, but if we go down on GD, that f#(King stupid penalty against Newcastle is the costliest of many costly mistakes individuals have made this season. That's all a bit harsh as he can have spells in games where he looks very solid and is good at getting a foot in front of opposition receiving ball. Hopefully, he will iron out these things to become a very good player-he clearly cares.
All to play for then. Hopefully no more knocks last night and we can get something at Chelsea other than a hard luck story or what might have been but for stupid individual errors
You reckon Boly comes in for Niakhate then? We'd miss those long throws.
Too soon for Boly, surely? Niakhate's been up and down but its too soon for Boly.
If he is going to start, he'd better start warming up now to keep those hamstrings loose!
RE: Nottingham Forest - Southampton - zicorice - 09-05-2023
(09-05-2023, 01:19 PM)wassy04 Wrote: (09-05-2023, 01:17 PM)Paplane Wrote: (09-05-2023, 12:47 PM)wassy04 Wrote: (09-05-2023, 12:22 PM)zicorice Wrote: Well no one saw that coming!! We are still fighting.
Positives:
- Obviously 3 points
- Danilo. 1 goal 1 assist and 1 secondary assist. This boy is going to be the real deal.
- Jonno looked dangerous all night, great assist for 1st goal and won a penalty with his sharpness.
- Taiwo....this is the finisher we thought we were getting. So pleased for him.
- MGW: You have to take the rough with the smooth with a mercurial talent, who is still so young. Contributed in giving away a goal and nearly another 2nd half, but balls of steel for pen and what an assist.
- Navas: I always feel opposition target him with crosses into box and Ward Prowse delivery was exquisite. He got something on everything he should. Defence let him down quite alot though. His kicking was 12 inches from being perfect, but instead gave away throw ins on half way a few times.
- Yates is back. Took a while to get up to speed, but no coincidence that Mangala looked a very good player tonight.Just does what he does and allows those around him to play better.
- Boly is back. I'd 100% start him on Saturday.
- Worrall: Dropped I think 5 or 6 times now, the last 3 to accommodate Niakhate (once McKenna came in and Worrall may not have been well enough to start). But since selection against Villa he has not put a foot wrong when called upon. Last night he looked like he'd played RB all his life.
- Felipe: This guy! Seems odd to praise a CB after conceding 3 at home but he is immense. Carries Niakhate somewhat at present. So wish his goal had been onside.
- Kouyate: Arguably cost us 3 points last week (we will never know) but came on and was excellent. Played a key part in 4th goal.
- Cooper: Got everything right last Night Selection tactics subs.
Negatives:
- Another set piece goal (though Yates indicated he was elbowed before corner came in).
- Stupid individual errors again. When will these stop?
- I am increasingly worried about Niakhate. The basics of head it and kick it seem to go wrong too often (throw it seems OK though). Felipe seems to cover his little mistakes so often. He backs off and for all his alledged pace it always seems his man gets away from him. For a supposed "beast" he loses too many physical confrontations and slides on his backside too often when no need. Perhaps he will adjust, but if we go down on GD, that f#(King stupid penalty against Newcastle is the costliest of many costly mistakes individuals have made this season. That's all a bit harsh as he can have spells in games where he looks very solid and is good at getting a foot in front of opposition receiving ball. Hopefully, he will iron out these things to become a very good player-he clearly cares.
All to play for then. Hopefully no more knocks last night and we can get something at Chelsea other than a hard luck story or what might have been but for stupid individual errors
You reckon Boly comes in for Niakhate then? We'd miss those long throws.
Too soon for Boly, surely? Niakhate's been up and down but its too soon for Boly.
If he is going to start, he'd better start warming up now to keep those hamstrings loose!
If he's fit enough then he starts for me. I love Felipe but in terms of results equating with performance, Boly has been our best CB when playing!. Felipe AND Boly...surely that helps stem the leakage at the back?
Boly for Niakhate? Short answer....yes. But I trust Cooper and suspect all 3 will start down there.
RE: Nottingham Forest - Southampton - McDurban - 09-05-2023
(09-05-2023, 02:16 PM)zicorice Wrote: (09-05-2023, 01:19 PM)wassy04 Wrote: (09-05-2023, 01:17 PM)Paplane Wrote: (09-05-2023, 12:47 PM)wassy04 Wrote: (09-05-2023, 12:22 PM)zicorice Wrote: Well no one saw that coming!! We are still fighting.
Positives:
- Obviously 3 points
- Danilo. 1 goal 1 assist and 1 secondary assist. This boy is going to be the real deal.
- Jonno looked dangerous all night, great assist for 1st goal and won a penalty with his sharpness.
- Taiwo....this is the finisher we thought we were getting. So pleased for him.
- MGW: You have to take the rough with the smooth with a mercurial talent, who is still so young. Contributed in giving away a goal and nearly another 2nd half, but balls of steel for pen and what an assist.
- Navas: I always feel opposition target him with crosses into box and Ward Prowse delivery was exquisite. He got something on everything he should. Defence let him down quite alot though. His kicking was 12 inches from being perfect, but instead gave away throw ins on half way a few times.
- Yates is back. Took a while to get up to speed, but no coincidence that Mangala looked a very good player tonight.Just does what he does and allows those around him to play better.
- Boly is back. I'd 100% start him on Saturday.
- Worrall: Dropped I think 5 or 6 times now, the last 3 to accommodate Niakhate (once McKenna came in and Worrall may not have been well enough to start). But since selection against Villa he has not put a foot wrong when called upon. Last night he looked like he'd played RB all his life.
- Felipe: This guy! Seems odd to praise a CB after conceding 3 at home but he is immense. Carries Niakhate somewhat at present. So wish his goal had been onside.
- Kouyate: Arguably cost us 3 points last week (we will never know) but came on and was excellent. Played a key part in 4th goal.
- Cooper: Got everything right last Night Selection tactics subs.
Negatives:
- Another set piece goal (though Yates indicated he was elbowed before corner came in).
- Stupid individual errors again. When will these stop?
- I am increasingly worried about Niakhate. The basics of head it and kick it seem to go wrong too often (throw it seems OK though). Felipe seems to cover his little mistakes so often. He backs off and for all his alledged pace it always seems his man gets away from him. For a supposed "beast" he loses too many physical confrontations and slides on his backside too often when no need. Perhaps he will adjust, but if we go down on GD, that f#(King stupid penalty against Newcastle is the costliest of many costly mistakes individuals have made this season. That's all a bit harsh as he can have spells in games where he looks very solid and is good at getting a foot in front of opposition receiving ball. Hopefully, he will iron out these things to become a very good player-he clearly cares.
All to play for then. Hopefully no more knocks last night and we can get something at Chelsea other than a hard luck story or what might have been but for stupid individual errors
You reckon Boly comes in for Niakhate then? We'd miss those long throws.
Too soon for Boly, surely? Niakhate's been up and down but its too soon for Boly.
If he is going to start, he'd better start warming up now to keep those hamstrings loose!
If he's fit enough then he starts for me. I love Felipe but in terms of results equating with performance, Boly has been our best CB when playing!. Felipe AND Boly...surely that helps stem the leakage at the back?
Boly for Niakhate? Short answer....yes. But I trust Cooper and suspect all 3 will start down there.
At Stamford Bridge, I'm inclined to agree... as long as Aurier is fit.
RE: Nottingham Forest - Southampton - wassy04 - 09-05-2023
(09-05-2023, 02:41 PM)McDurban Wrote: (09-05-2023, 02:16 PM)zicorice Wrote: (09-05-2023, 01:19 PM)wassy04 Wrote: (09-05-2023, 01:17 PM)Paplane Wrote: (09-05-2023, 12:47 PM)wassy04 Wrote: You reckon Boly comes in for Niakhate then? We'd miss those long throws.
Too soon for Boly, surely? Niakhate's been up and down but its too soon for Boly.
If he is going to start, he'd better start warming up now to keep those hamstrings loose!
If he's fit enough then he starts for me. I love Felipe but in terms of results equating with performance, Boly has been our best CB when playing!. Felipe AND Boly...surely that helps stem the leakage at the back?
Boly for Niakhate? Short answer....yes. But I trust Cooper and suspect all 3 will start down there.
At Stamford Bridge, I'm inclined to agree... as long as Aurier is fit.
If not then who would play RWB?!
RE: Nottingham Forest - Southampton - Username - 09-05-2023
When Aurier was injured last night I was sure that Toffolo would come in at left back and Lodi moved to right back.
Seems like an option to me.
RE: Nottingham Forest - Southampton - nffc93 - 09-05-2023
Aurier looked fine to me jumping around at full time. He'll be rate for Saturday
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