(10-03-2024, 08:06 PM)Paplane Wrote: MGW saying in his post match interview its getting silly now.  Ican guarantee it'll get absolutely zero attention on motd tonight, or it'll get laughed off.

(10-03-2024, 08:27 PM)Plymouth red Wrote: Poor refereeing aside, we are our own worst enemy and are now going down the 'woe is me' route which will end with relegation. It felt from the first minute that the side were feeling sorry for themselves and their statements in the media after that simply reinforce my fear.

Yes refereeing has hurt us but in both games, they are not the things that caused us to concede or caused us to be crap at defending set pieces. They are not the things that meant we created very little.

Reality is, we as a fan base and as a club have got to stop playing victim and start using it to motivate our survival. Essentially those post match interviews were the equivalent of a moody teenager blaming the teachers for their rubbish exam results.

(10-03-2024, 08:07 PM)ozzyten10 Wrote: We don’t have the same fight in our players this year compared to last. Too many don’t have a consequence if we go down as they will all f**k off. MGW to his credit does have the fight but he is visibly getting frustrated with his team mates.
Playing two very young centre halves - however good we think they are- is a bit suicidal for me. Would like to see Boly recalled and maybe Kouyate in midfield for his experience.
That said - those two may have their eyes on a move and not want to get injured!

(10-03-2024, 08:14 PM)Salvatore Matrecano Wrote: Blaming the referee for the loss is plain wrong.

Yes Moder should have been sent off but Omo was very lucky not to have had 2 yellows.

I dont like the players and manager now seem to be using the referee as an excuse. We weren’t good enough and its on them. They need to own it.

(10-03-2024, 09:30 PM)BadDog Wrote:

(10-03-2024, 08:14 PM)Salvatore Matrecano Wrote: Blaming the referee for the loss is plain wrong.

Yes Moder should have been sent off but Omo was very lucky not to have had 2 yellows.

I dont like the players and manager now seem to be using the referee as an excuse. We weren’t good enough and its on them. They need to own it.

You keep saying this no one is saying we lose BECAUSE of the ref.

But what we are saying is if the right decision is made we have 35 minutes against 10 men.

Then who knows what happens? You seem to always take the side of the opposition/ref or whatever.

If you don't see what they are moaning for I can't help you.

(10-03-2024, 09:30 PM)BadDog Wrote:

(10-03-2024, 08:14 PM)Salvatore Matrecano Wrote: Blaming the referee for the loss is plain wrong.

Yes Moder should have been sent off but Omo was very lucky not to have had 2 yellows.

I dont like the players and manager now seem to be using the referee as an excuse. We weren’t good enough and its on them. They need to own it.

You keep saying this no one is saying we lose BECAUSE of the ref.

But what we are saying is if the right decision is made we have 35 minutes against 10 men.

Then who knows what happens? You seem to always take the side of the opposition/ref or whatever.

If you don't see what they are moaning for I can't help you.

(10-03-2024, 09:37 PM)Salvatore Matrecano Wrote:

(10-03-2024, 09:30 PM)BadDog Wrote:

(10-03-2024, 08:14 PM)Salvatore Matrecano Wrote: Blaming the referee for the loss is plain wrong.

Yes Moder should have been sent off but Omo was very lucky not to have had 2 yellows.

I dont like the players and manager now seem to be using the referee as an excuse. We weren’t good enough and its on them. They need to own it.

You keep saying this no one is saying we lose BECAUSE of the ref.

But what we are saying is if the right decision is made we have 35 minutes against 10 men.

Then who knows what happens? You seem to always take the side of the opposition/ref or whatever.

If you don't see what they are moaning for I can't help you.

Yes 35 minutes against 10 men who would have gone in to low block mode and wasting time from that moment onwards exactly as they saw out the last few mins. We barely laid a glove on them throughout the match, I would say its  unlikely it would have affected the result.
We played with them down to 10 men back in November and lost then too.

(10-03-2024, 09:37 PM)Salvatore Matrecano Wrote:

(10-03-2024, 09:30 PM)BadDog Wrote:

(10-03-2024, 08:14 PM)Salvatore Matrecano Wrote: Blaming the referee for the loss is plain wrong.

Yes Moder should have been sent off but Omo was very lucky not to have had 2 yellows.

I dont like the players and manager now seem to be using the referee as an excuse. We weren’t good enough and its on them. They need to own it.

You keep saying this no one is saying we lose BECAUSE of the ref.

But what we are saying is if the right decision is made we have 35 minutes against 10 men.

Then who knows what happens? You seem to always take the side of the opposition/ref or whatever.

If you don't see what they are moaning for I can't help you.

Yes 35 minutes against 10 men who would have gone in to low block mode and wasting time from that moment onwards exactly as they saw out the last few mins. We barely laid a glove on them throughout the match, I would say its  unlikely it would have affected the result.
We played with them down to 10 men back in November and lost then too.

(10-03-2024, 09:39 PM)Paplane Wrote:

(10-03-2024, 09:30 PM)BadDog Wrote:

(10-03-2024, 08:14 PM)Salvatore Matrecano Wrote: Blaming the referee for the loss is plain wrong.

Yes Moder should have been sent off but Omo was very lucky not to have had 2 yellows.

I dont like the players and manager now seem to be using the referee as an excuse. We weren’t good enough and its on them. They need to own it.

You keep saying this no one is saying we lose BECAUSE of the ref.

But what we are saying is if the right decision is made we have 35 minutes against 10 men.

Then who knows what happens? You seem to always take the side of the opposition/ref or whatever.

If you don't see what they are moaning for I can't help you.

Yep, nothing is certain but if its correct and its 9 against us now then youve got to be looking at at least 3 points lost, and thats being generous. We'd be 6 points ahead of Luton and then the mindset around next week's game is completely different. These poor decisions are definately affecting our season now.

(10-03-2024, 09:42 PM)BadDog Wrote:

(10-03-2024, 09:39 PM)Paplane Wrote:

(10-03-2024, 09:30 PM)BadDog Wrote:

(10-03-2024, 08:14 PM)Salvatore Matrecano Wrote: Blaming the referee for the loss is plain wrong.

Yes Moder should have been sent off but Omo was very lucky not to have had 2 yellows.

I dont like the players and manager now seem to be using the referee as an excuse. We weren’t good enough and its on them. They need to own it.

You keep saying this no one is saying we lose BECAUSE of the ref.

But what we are saying is if the right decision is made we have 35 minutes against 10 men.

Then who knows what happens? You seem to always take the side of the opposition/ref or whatever.

If you don't see what they are moaning for I can't help you.

Yep, nothing is certain but if its correct and its 9 against us now then youve got to be looking at at least 3 points lost, and thats being generous. We'd be 6 points ahead of Luton and then the mindset around next week's game is completely different. These poor decisions are definately affecting our season now.

Exactly I find the dismissal of this quite incredible.