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RE: The Premier League 2023/24 - wassy04 - 26-04-2024
(26-04-2024, 09:57 AM)Marinakis Red Wrote:(26-04-2024, 07:15 AM)ToryTom Wrote: Nuno needs to be tactically smart. Last season we saw a Cooper master class in this game. Frustrate them for an hour, getting men behind the ball, filling all the spaces and after an hour as they began to tire make a couple of attacking substitutions and go for them more. Similar tactics and some luck is the only way we get anything on Sunday. I am not sure Nuno has got the tactical flexibility to do that in a game but we will see.
Poor finishing from city saw us stay in that game, let's be real. Haaland missed a fair few chances, de bruyne couldn't hit the target, it was not a tactical masterclass.
So every game is just decided by how many chances you create?
If we're playing that game, how about our much heralded game vs Newcastle. They could've been 2-3 up early before we got in front and missed some great chances. Were we lucky then?
We were playing the best team in the world and we limited them to long range efforts and a few big chances then took our chance when it came. I think we did the best we could've done in that game, certainly better than I believed was possible.
Or was anyone expecting us to dominate that game? Feel like Cooper nailed that one personally.
RE: The Premier League 2023/24 - Salvatore Matrecano - 26-04-2024
(26-04-2024, 11:47 AM)Trailer Park Tom Wrote: Seeing all the press around Gary f*****g Neville is making me realise how horrible this season has been for many reasons.
Smug, snidey, arrogant, self-opinionated, areseholes like Lineker, Neville, Carragher and Shearer are definitely part of the problem. All dinosaurs from a similar era saying the same nonsense and sucking up to the big clubs. All of them in favour of VAR because they know it gives them something else to waffle on about and an opportunity to get their egotistical faces on TV even more. Their time has gone and they need sacking off as much as Keys and Gray did.
RE: The Premier League 2023/24 - BomberBowyer - 26-04-2024
(26-04-2024, 11:56 AM)wassy04 Wrote:(26-04-2024, 09:57 AM)Marinakis Red Wrote:(26-04-2024, 07:15 AM)ToryTom Wrote: Nuno needs to be tactically smart. Last season we saw a Cooper master class in this game. Frustrate them for an hour, getting men behind the ball, filling all the spaces and after an hour as they began to tire make a couple of attacking substitutions and go for them more. Similar tactics and some luck is the only way we get anything on Sunday. I am not sure Nuno has got the tactical flexibility to do that in a game but we will see.
Poor finishing from city saw us stay in that game, let's be real. Haaland missed a fair few chances, de bruyne couldn't hit the target, it was not a tactical masterclass.
So every game is just decided by how many chances you create?
If we're playing that game, how about our much heralded game vs Newcastle. They could've been 2-3 up early before we got in front and missed some great chances. Were we lucky then?
We were playing the best team in the world and we limited them to long range efforts and a few big chances then took our chance when it came. I think we did the best we could've done in that game, certainly better than I believed was possible.
Or was anyone expecting us to dominate that game? Feel like Cooper nailed that one personally.
Not saying Cooper didn’t set us up well but tactical masterclass feels a bit extreme and I am a Cooper fan! He set us up to stifle City, stay in the game and hope to be in it and nick something. That’s not a masterclass, it’s realism. But if people want to argue it was then fine but recognise then that Nuno’s tactics v Liverpool were a masterclass too then. We’d have won that game had it not been for poor finishing.
RE: The Premier League 2023/24 - BomberBowyer - 26-04-2024
(26-04-2024, 11:47 AM)Trailer Park Tom Wrote: Seeing all the press around Gary f*****g Neville is making me realise how horrible this season has been for many reasons.
Think Neville ought to focus on his own team perhaps rather than criticising others [attachment=1347]
RE: The Premier League 2023/24 - Salvatore Matrecano - 26-04-2024
(26-04-2024, 11:56 AM)wassy04 Wrote:(26-04-2024, 09:57 AM)Marinakis Red Wrote:(26-04-2024, 07:15 AM)ToryTom Wrote: Nuno needs to be tactically smart. Last season we saw a Cooper master class in this game. Frustrate them for an hour, getting men behind the ball, filling all the spaces and after an hour as they began to tire make a couple of attacking substitutions and go for them more. Similar tactics and some luck is the only way we get anything on Sunday. I am not sure Nuno has got the tactical flexibility to do that in a game but we will see.
Poor finishing from city saw us stay in that game, let's be real. Haaland missed a fair few chances, de bruyne couldn't hit the target, it was not a tactical masterclass.
So every game is just decided by how many chances you create?
If we're playing that game, how about our much heralded game vs Newcastle. They could've been 2-3 up early before we got in front and missed some great chances. Were we lucky then?
We were playing the best team in the world and we limited them to long range efforts and a few big chances then took our chance when it came. I think we did the best we could've done in that game, certainly better than I believed was possible.
Or was anyone expecting us to dominate that game? Feel like Cooper nailed that one personally.
Pretty well every one of the 38 points we achieved last season, worth noting more than we will achieve this season, was won in the same way, low block and counter attack. So were all those 38 points lucky? Of course not, it worked and I genuinely don’t think we could have stayed up last year playing any other way.
However it was a tactic that needed to evolve and to an extent has done so, just not always successfully. Maybe we tried to be too adventurous too quickly. Maybe its bad luck or maybe we just forgot to do the basics right. I believe we are inching 2 steps forward, one step back, just need to survive this season.
RE: The Premier League 2023/24 - wassy04 - 26-04-2024
(26-04-2024, 12:20 PM)BomberBowyer Wrote:(26-04-2024, 11:56 AM)wassy04 Wrote:(26-04-2024, 09:57 AM)Marinakis Red Wrote:(26-04-2024, 07:15 AM)ToryTom Wrote: Nuno needs to be tactically smart. Last season we saw a Cooper master class in this game. Frustrate them for an hour, getting men behind the ball, filling all the spaces and after an hour as they began to tire make a couple of attacking substitutions and go for them more. Similar tactics and some luck is the only way we get anything on Sunday. I am not sure Nuno has got the tactical flexibility to do that in a game but we will see.
Poor finishing from city saw us stay in that game, let's be real. Haaland missed a fair few chances, de bruyne couldn't hit the target, it was not a tactical masterclass.
So every game is just decided by how many chances you create?
If we're playing that game, how about our much heralded game vs Newcastle. They could've been 2-3 up early before we got in front and missed some great chances. Were we lucky then?
We were playing the best team in the world and we limited them to long range efforts and a few big chances then took our chance when it came. I think we did the best we could've done in that game, certainly better than I believed was possible.
Or was anyone expecting us to dominate that game? Feel like Cooper nailed that one personally.
Not saying Cooper didn’t set us up well but tactical masterclass feels a bit extreme and I am a Cooper fan! He set us up to stifle City, stay in the game and hope to be in it and nick something. That’s not a masterclass, it’s realism. But if people want to argue it was then fine but recognise then that Nuno’s tactics v Liverpool were a masterclass too then. We’d have won that game had it not been for poor finishing.
Yeah I do get it, I didn't use the term masterclass, it was obviously a common sense tactic. I'm sure there were nuances within the defensive tactics that were well designed and thought out though and the management and players deserved credit for executing it.
As opposed to basically being denounced as lucky and City being bad the only reason we didn't get thrashed.
RE: The Premier League 2023/24 - Sniffer Dog (Admin) - 26-04-2024
(26-04-2024, 11:09 AM)Trailer Park Tom Wrote:(26-04-2024, 08:56 AM)Sniffer Dog (Admin) Wrote:(26-04-2024, 08:29 AM)ToryTom Wrote:(26-04-2024, 07:29 AM)Plymouth red Wrote:(26-04-2024, 07:22 AM)BomberBowyer Wrote: Cooper masterclass? The game I watched could have been a cricket score but City’s players had an off day finishing wise. We were lucky to keep it at one nil but yes our goal was class as were the fans that game as usual
I agree... as great a result that it was, we were incredibly lucky. Haaland alone could have and should have had a hatrick
I'd take another one of those days. Its about time we had some luck
Of course we had some luck. Even Real Madrid need some luck to get past Man City. However our tactics and the application of the players gave us a chance to get us a result which we did. Cooper set it up perfect. Some people now struggling to recognise that.
On another day City could have had 10.
We got very lucky.
If it was a boxing match it would have been stopped.
Come on sniff you were bad mouthing hindsight yesterday.
Via La low block. Burnley at home changed the season.
Not sure what post my post has got to do with hindsight.
If we were a horse they would have shot us to stop us from unnecessary suffering.
RE: The Premier League 2023/24 - ToryTom - 26-04-2024
(26-04-2024, 04:03 PM)Sniffer Dog (Admin) Wrote:(26-04-2024, 11:09 AM)Trailer Park Tom Wrote:(26-04-2024, 08:56 AM)Sniffer Dog (Admin) Wrote:(26-04-2024, 08:29 AM)ToryTom Wrote:(26-04-2024, 07:29 AM)Plymouth red Wrote: I agree... as great a result that it was, we were incredibly lucky. Haaland alone could have and should have had a hatrick
I'd take another one of those days. Its about time we had some luck
Of course we had some luck. Even Real Madrid need some luck to get past Man City. However our tactics and the application of the players gave us a chance to get us a result which we did. Cooper set it up perfect. Some people now struggling to recognise that.
On another day City could have had 10.
We got very lucky.
If it was a boxing match it would have been stopped.
Come on sniff you were bad mouthing hindsight yesterday.
Via La low block. Burnley at home changed the season.
Not sure what post my post has got to do with hindsight.
If we were a horse they would have shot us to stop us from unnecessary suffering.
Crikey. It was a superb backs to the wall performance and result against a team that went onto win the treble. The ground was rocking. We defended for our lives for an hour and then the manager changed it up. Now by certain people it was nothing. we should of lost by a cricket score. if we were horse we would have been shot. If it was a boxing match it would have been stopped. certain people have got an agenda to rubbish what Cooper achieved in his two years as manager. We also managed to beat Arsenal with a similar performance. I guess the same things will be said about that. Now we really need a result at home against City. Let’s see if the current manager has the nous to pull it off.
RE: The Premier League 2023/24 - Fumanchew - 27-04-2024
Leicester confirmed promoted, when does their psr breach fallout begin?
RE: The Premier League 2023/24 - BomberBowyer - 27-04-2024
(27-04-2024, 12:48 AM)Fumanchew Wrote: Leicester confirmed promoted, when does their psr breach fallout begin?
At least if we do get relegated we’ll have the joy of watching them get their pts deduction and probably shafted each week with decisions etc.
RE: The Premier League 2023/24 - Marinakis Red - 27-04-2024
(27-04-2024, 08:08 AM)BomberBowyer Wrote:(27-04-2024, 12:48 AM)Fumanchew Wrote: Leicester confirmed promoted, when does their psr breach fallout begin?
At least if we do get relegated we’ll have the joy of watching them get their pts deduction and probably shafted each week with decisions etc.
Having had to sell half the squad.
RE: The Premier League 2023/24 - BomberBowyer - 27-04-2024
(27-04-2024, 08:16 AM)Marinakis Red Wrote:(27-04-2024, 08:08 AM)BomberBowyer Wrote:(27-04-2024, 12:48 AM)Fumanchew Wrote: Leicester confirmed promoted, when does their psr breach fallout begin?
At least if we do get relegated we’ll have the joy of watching them get their pts deduction and probably shafted each week with decisions etc.
Having had to sell half the squad.
Yes kind of makes you wonder why bother. Well done to them and enjoy the celebrations Leicester fans whilst you can