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RE: Your Thoughts On The Next Nottingham Forest Manager - Strawberry Avenger - 27-12-2018
(27-12-2018, 04:50 PM)Duncan Mckenzie Wrote: Anyway, back on track.
Next Nottingham Forest manager anyone? (Like the thread title says).
Assuming Aitor will be gone after Leeds. (Hope he stays).
Like you said, Duncan.
I HOPE that he STAYS!
This cycle of madness and destruction MUST stop for Forest to evolve.
Forest are only 5 months(!) into a Forest Project. (I don't really consider the 'emergency brakes' of last season as valid. It's not a true starting point.)
Aitor was quite RIGHT when he pointed to Norwich's patience to stick 'with it' even though last season they were NOWHERE near the play offs.
By comparison, Forest are ahead of schedule.
Fire Aitor and you're getting nothing this season. It will be 'new guy' spends 3 months trying to find his 'best team' (blah, blah, cliche...) and you can kiss good bye to the play offs.
We're 3 points off. 1 point IF we'd won yesterday. And our 'nearly' best team schooled Norwich for 75 minutes yesterday. Until Jack went off. (We need that feistiness but, for FAWKE's sake, Jack, don't kick the ball away and get a yellow for it like you did at Boro'...)
Forest are so, so close under Aitor. Give him this January at least and 3-4 more signings.
With a LB and a CH and a winger...we'd be sitting top 3 at least. Those are the structural weaknesses in the side.
You couldn't ask for anymore from the side yesterday for 75 mins. Yeah, I'm 'pished' at the 'loss' of the win. But morally? We hammered Norwich yesterday.
It should (!) be us sitting top 2, not them. Norwich? Leeds? Get out of it. They got nothing. And they're bleeping 18 months ahead of us. We're 5 months into it and we've schooled the top 6.
You don't fire the manager when you're so close. You build from this relative (to the last 3 seasons of relegation threat..) position of strength.
Don't do a O'Driscoll and throw it all the way.
We've come so far and are agonisingly close.
Don't let the hope kill you.
We started from a low, low base.
HOLD YOUR NERVE, HIERARCHY! Aitor is the BEST manager we've had in years. It took him 2 and a half years at Boro'...he's got the record.
STAY THE COURSE.
SA.
RE: Your Thoughts On The Next Nottingham Forest Manager - the jock - 27-12-2018
(27-12-2018, 04:47 PM)Duncan Mckenzie Wrote:(27-12-2018, 04:38 PM)Username Wrote:(27-12-2018, 03:35 PM)the jock Wrote: football writers up at boro are saying it was inevitable that karanka fell out with the players.
weird the same week hobbs said the team spirit at bolton was better.
Tails tweeted this yesterday “Certainly never had any whiff of any fall out with players. Not evident in the performance today. Mad nine minutes of injury time and some shabby defending during it was hugely costly. But that was not a performance of a team not playing for the manager.”
Not sure why you keep lauding Bolton’s team spirit as something to aspire to.
Username, Jock was only quoting what Jack Hobbs had said. He wasn't lauding Bolton's team spirit.
thanks Duncan! not sure why i have to explain that.
RE: Your Thoughts On The Next Nottingham Forest Manager - the jock - 27-12-2018
according to the post now unless dramatic change he is a gone.
martin o'neill on a shortlist and jokanovic
RE: Your Thoughts On The Next Nottingham Forest Manager - PsychoStooge - 27-12-2018
Christ. Martin O'Neill... he's don't nothing in management for about 15 years. It'd just be the board pandering to the fans who worshiped him as a player and it'd be absolutely gutless from them.
RE: Your Thoughts On The Next Nottingham Forest Manager - Redgirl - 27-12-2018
If O’Neill gets it I would seriously question the clubs motives.
RE: Your Thoughts On The Next Nottingham Forest Manager - Kranky - 27-12-2018
10 years ago I'd have said yes but it's a big no from me.
RE: Your Thoughts On The Next Nottingham Forest Manager - HykehamRed - 27-12-2018
(27-12-2018, 05:34 PM)the jock Wrote: according to the post now unless dramatic change he is a gone.
martin o'neill on a shortlist and jokanovic
Presumably beating Millwall and Leeds would be ‘a dramatic change’?
RE: Your Thoughts On The Next Nottingham Forest Manager - ozzyten10 - 27-12-2018
Interesting that the post report was taken down and within minutes sky reporting a very different take on the situation. Perhaps this was just a review by the board and fed stuff to media to gauge opinion. Also, strange that karanka himself took on the media the way he did with the 2 1/2 year thing. Perhaps there is a break in his contract on Jan 1st with reduced pay off if not performing and ventroz / Randall et al had a chat. The denial of marikanakis in the sky report suggests that he doesn’t want to be seen as whimsical as Fawaz. We are also being told by Nixon repeatedly that money men want players out. Could it be that we may we’ll have to cash in on lolley to do what Karanka wants?
RE: Your Thoughts On The Next Nottingham Forest Manager - Paplane - 27-12-2018
(27-12-2018, 07:04 PM)ozzyten10 Wrote: Interesting that the post report was taken down and within minutes sky reporting a very different take on the situation. Perhaps this was just a review by the board and fed stuff to media to gauge opinion. Also, strange that karanka himself took on the media the way he did with the 2 1/2 year thing. Perhaps there is a break in his contract on Jan 1st with reduced pay off if not performing and ventroz / Randall et al had a chat. The denial of marikanakis in the sky report suggests that he doesn’t want to be seen as whimsical as Fawaz. We are also being told by Nixon repeatedly that money men want players out. Could it be that we may we’ll have to cash in on lolley to do what Karanka wants?
Firest Boffin just put a poll on twitter. 300 votes cast, 92% said they want AK to stay.
As for players out, well we cant just keep buying players and adding. No club can do that under the restrictions. Something has to give and the club has to balance the books. If AK wants new players he has to do it in a sustainable way.
RE: Your Thoughts On The Next Nottingham Forest Manager - Username - 27-12-2018
Agreed.
Given our sales I suspect that we do have some cash to spend.
RE: Your Thoughts On The Next Nottingham Forest Manager - Username - 27-12-2018
Aitor Karanka 'still has Nottingham Forest dressing room' but pressure is growing on Spaniard
Aitor Karanka's future as Nottingham Forest boss looks increasingly uncertain but reports of a 'player revolt' are wide of the mark, Sky Sports News understands.
Sky Sports News
Two senior Forest players - who wish to remain anonymous - have told Sky Sports News that reports stating Karanka had lost parts of the dressing room are not correct.
Another newspaper report on Thursday claims a string of Forest players texted Karanka to show their support as reports over his future emerged overnight.
Sky Sports News understands that owner Evangelos Marinakis has not given the Spaniard an ultimatum to save his job as things stand - and Karanka is expected to be in the dugout for the game against Millwall this weekend.
Karanka's mandate from the owner was to get the club promoted within two-and-a-half years - not to be in the play-offs by January 1 2019, as was reported by one English newspaper - and Karanka was only appointed in January this year.
But the ex-Middlesbrough manager has two crucial games against the Lions and Leeds coming up, as he bids to overturn a poor run of form of just a single win from six attempts and lift the10th-placed side back into the top six.
Forest let slip a 3-0 lead to draw 3-3 at second-placed Norwich on Boxing Day - but a large swathe of supporters have come out in support of the boss by launching a 'Don'tSackAitor' hashtag campaign on social media.
RE: Your Thoughts On The Next Nottingham Forest Manager - Sniffer Dog (Admin) - 29-12-2018
So, who do you want then?