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RE: The Premier League 2022/23 - Paplane - 17-04-2023
Everton will certainly appeal any points deduction. That process will take them well into the summer and beyond. The team who will benefit from Everton's demise will be Luton or Boro.
RE: The Premier League 2022/23 - wassy04 - 17-04-2023
(17-04-2023, 08:50 AM)Paplane Wrote: Everton will certainly appeal any points deduction. That process will take them well into the summer and beyond. The team who will benefit from Everton's demise will be Luton or Boro.
I would certainly hope regardless that if it comes to it we focus on getting at least 18th, just in case. Imagine if we gave up, finished 19th and then the deduction held.
Also, before anyone says, well it was a previous season or we don't deserve to stay up like that etc. They have quite clearly broken the rules and benefitted over multiple seasons, they'd have gone down last year (meaning a weaker team stayed up that we could've beaten). Plus this year they still signed Onana who would likely be one of our best players and have multiple players they shouldn't have been able to keep.
I feel like on principle I would love to see them down, although I do think they would find it easier to recover as there is still money there. Leicester will find it harder as the owners are broke post covid hence the collapse this year. Once you take out Maddison and Barnes their team looks pretty average.
RE: The Premier League 2022/23 - optimistic_red - 17-04-2023
(17-04-2023, 08:50 AM)Paplane Wrote: Everton will certainly appeal any points deduction. That process will take them well into the summer and beyond. The team who will benefit from Everton's demise will be Luton or Boro.
Stupid that they can appeal, they have submitted 3 sets of accounts that break FFP rules. It's not like the PL is making up the figures, its their figures!
Rules should be simple. for every (x)% over = 1 pts deduction to be taken at (y) date and embargo of (z) windows
Who writes the rules, it really should be that hard.
RE: The Premier League 2022/23 - wassy04 - 17-04-2023
(17-04-2023, 10:51 AM)optimistic_red Wrote:(17-04-2023, 08:50 AM)Paplane Wrote: Everton will certainly appeal any points deduction. That process will take them well into the summer and beyond. The team who will benefit from Everton's demise will be Luton or Boro.Stupid that they can appeal, they have submitted 3 sets of accounts that break FFP rules. It's not like the PL is making up the figures, its their figures!
Rules should be simple. for every (x)% over = 1 pts deduction to be taken at (y) date and embargo of (z) windows
Who writes the rules, it really should be that hard.
It's because of the Covid allowances they were given, makes the whole process more difficult. Plus some costs are allowable for FFP purposes and some of those are debatable. Basically they claimed a lot of their losses were due to covid but significantly more than anyone else in the league did by a very wide margin.
However, weirdly the Premier League initially accepted it and agreed to allow it as long as the followed agreed savings going forward, eg the Richarlison sale on the last day of June.
Leeds and Burnley then kicked up a fuss and appealed (all very similar to Derby situation) and then the league seemed to have changed their minds which does give Everton grounds to complain, similar to Derby. They f****d up badly not giving them the penalty last year when it was clear they should've done, weak management by the PL.
RE: The Premier League 2022/23 - Salvatore Matrecano - 17-04-2023
To be honest Im more worried about our own FFP situation. Not saying we’ve done something wrong but pretty sure we will be in a sell before we can buy scenario.
RE: The Premier League 2022/23 - wassy04 - 17-04-2023
(17-04-2023, 12:24 PM)Salvatore Matrecano Wrote: To be honest Im more worried about our own FFP situation. Not saying we’ve done something wrong but pretty sure we will be in a sell before we can buy scenario.
I think we likely would've failed it this year in the championship had we not have gone up or at least would've had to sell a few before end of June last year to get under it. I suspect we'll be right on the wire again, at least compared to the last few years we actually have loads of assets to sell. Think we've got around 40 odd players when you factor in loans/academy.
I suspect the strategy will be take a chunky fee for Brennan to cover it and the rest should sort itself out. A second year in the championship would likely be the firesale.
RE: The Premier League 2022/23 - nffc93 - 17-04-2023
(17-04-2023, 12:24 PM)Salvatore Matrecano Wrote: To be honest Im more worried about our own FFP situation. Not saying we’ve done something wrong but pretty sure we will be in a sell before we can buy scenario.
Step forward, Ross Wilson.
RE: The Premier League 2022/23 - Sausage Roll - 17-04-2023
Liverpool 3-1 up at Leeds. Will mean they're not clear of danger yet.
RE: The Premier League 2022/23 - Salvatore Matrecano - 17-04-2023
Haha look at the Leeds score! Getting completely stuffed.
Now then, who have we got next game?
Oh….
RE: The Premier League 2022/23 - WrexhamRed - 17-04-2023
Haha I watched it & tbh Liverpool didn't look all that & then suddenly bang bang bang bang.....gulp
RE: The Premier League 2022/23 - wassy04 - 17-04-2023
Looking at next few matches elsewhere:
Leeds - Fulham, Leicester and Bournemouth (does get easier after that)
Everton - Palace. Newcastle, Leicester
Leicester - wolves, Leeds, Everton
Forest - Liverpool, Brighton, Brentford
Those teams have harder games after those but we might need adrift by that point.
Based on the above, feels like we need to get some points in these three games otherwise we'll be a bit adrift. I do think we can get something against Brghton and/or Brentford. Next weekend might hurt though
RE: The Premier League 2022/23 - Shawoddyred - 17-04-2023
(17-04-2023, 09:37 PM)Salvatore Matrecano Wrote: Haha look at the Leeds score! Getting completely stuffed.
Now then, who have we got next game?
Oh….
When they beat united 7 - 0....next game lost 1 - 0 to Bournemouth!?! Clutching much?