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RE: Chelsea - Nottingham Forest - nffc93 - 13-05-2023 (13-05-2023, 06:28 PM)Username Wrote: I thought Mangala was dreadful for their first goal, you simply can’t pass a player on in the way he did and get away with it. They'll beat Spurs I reckon. Hone advantage, place rocking. And I'd fancy them getting a point at West Ham RE: Chelsea - Nottingham Forest - Red Dog - 13-05-2023 (13-05-2023, 05:01 PM)Salvatore Matrecano Wrote: One more point does it IMO. Easier said than done but we have 2 bites at it. Reckon pressure will be on Arse-nil next week. They could lose the title at the WFCG. If City and Red Scousers do us favours tomorrow and Monday then who knows? RE: Chelsea - Nottingham Forest - zicorice - 13-05-2023 (13-05-2023, 06:28 PM)Username Wrote: I thought Mangala was dreadful for their first goal, you simply can’t pass a player on in the way he did and get away with it. It's an area his game he needs to work on. Defending in and around the box. At Leeds he didn't get close enough for 2nd goal. That said, there is so many positive aspects to the rest of his game. With a full preseason he could be a real asset next season. RE: Chelsea - Nottingham Forest - wassy04 - 13-05-2023 (13-05-2023, 06:18 PM)Plymouth red Wrote:(13-05-2023, 06:14 PM)wassy04 Wrote:(13-05-2023, 05:53 PM)Plymouth red Wrote:(13-05-2023, 05:43 PM)wassy04 Wrote:(13-05-2023, 05:11 PM)Plymouth red Wrote: A repeat of our last couple of home matches against arsenal would be nice. They had some hard games in that run though. RE: Chelsea - Nottingham Forest - wassy04 - 13-05-2023 (13-05-2023, 06:28 PM)Username Wrote: I thought Mangala was dreadful for their first goal, you simply can’t pass a player on in the way he did and get away with it. Exactly, it's easy to set up a team to defend, more difficult when you're meant to play on the front foot, against a good team. RE: Chelsea - Nottingham Forest - zicorice - 13-05-2023 (13-05-2023, 06:29 PM)Username Wrote:(13-05-2023, 05:57 PM)zicorice Wrote: Positives: Still should have been able to adjust to get enough to redirect towards goal. He has certain strengths, but his clumsiness and heavy footedness worries me as a Prem CB. Early days for him though, especially as he was out most of season. 2 more draws should do it.....so glad I got Palace tickets.... RE: Chelsea - Nottingham Forest - Username - 13-05-2023 To be honest mate I think you denigrate his performances slightly because you want others to be played ahead of him, they’re all flawed. Fact is that our results/ resilience have improved immensely since he returned. RE: Chelsea - Nottingham Forest - Username - 13-05-2023 (13-05-2023, 06:33 PM)zicorice Wrote:(13-05-2023, 06:28 PM)Username Wrote: I thought Mangala was dreadful for their first goal, you simply can’t pass a player on in the way he did and get away with it. I hope you’re right mate. I’m not entirely convinced yet to be honest. There is some strengths to his game, just not sure they are at a high enough level to make a big enough contribution week in, week out, same with Freuler. RE: Chelsea - Nottingham Forest - zicorice - 13-05-2023 (13-05-2023, 07:02 PM)Username Wrote: To be honest mate I think you denigrate his performances slightly because you want others to be played ahead of him, they’re all flawed. 100% not that. I want our best CBs fit and playing because we are very shaky at the back. Boly is obviously not ready as Worrall got the nod (and was very good today). Perhaps it's down to expectation, as all the hype when he signed and was being lauded in meaningless preseason matches made it sound like we'd signed a "sure thing". His 1st 2 and a half games were dodgy (I stated it back then) but understandable in a new league. Then out with injury for ages. Since returning, he's had good moments and bad but at least we've been able to see him more. There are fundamental elements to his game that worry me. I can say in all honesty I want him to be good , better than the others at Cooper's disposal and he still may be in future. Based purely on performance this season and given 'score' I rate our CBs as 1.Boly 7.5/10 (excluding debut) 2. Felipe 7.5/10 (love him and always available). Big drop to: 3.McKenna 5.5/10 4. Joe 5.5/10 (though much better lately) 5. Niakhate 5.5/10 6. Steve Cook 5/10 (after decent period esp v Brighton & Liverpool, dropped off). Also. Aurier did a very good job v Brighton. Would Wolves have let Boly go if he was fit more often? Looking at their CBs against us I'd argue not. Niakhate has been OK in the main, but as a defender for £15 million I think we should (and hopefully will) be seeing more. RE: Chelsea - Nottingham Forest - Username - 13-05-2023 I’ve just noticed it appear in a few of your postings of late when referencing Moussa. I definitely agree that he started poorly for us after much hype but let’s face it most of the people talking him up probably hadn’t actually seen him play or were basing it on highlights or taking other people’s word as gospel. He has definitely had some frustrating moments since his return but, let’s face it, who hasn’t this season? The handball v Newcastle and the sick note away at Villa Park stand out albeit even the much lauded Felipe has had some poor moments at times but hasn’t been punished to the same level. For me the benefit of a Felipe and Niakahte pairing is that we can actually play four at the back. I genuinely can’t see that with Worrall, he seems to be better in a back three and that limits our options/flexibility. RE: Chelsea - Nottingham Forest - zicorice - 13-05-2023 (13-05-2023, 08:36 PM)Username Wrote: I’ve just noticed it appear in a few of your postings of late when referencing Moussa. PMd you. But you pretty much nailed it anyway. Individual errors has been our curse this season, slong eith injuries. Kouyate has been a real plus this season once he got fit and even he had a costly 2 minutes nightmare at Brentford. RE: Chelsea - Nottingham Forest - Username - 13-05-2023 Also: Dean Henderson on BBC Sport: “I’ve never seen a team so united” “Everyone loves the gaffer, he’s a great man, a great guy and wants the best for each and every player” Make no mistake Steve Cooper is firmly in the elite bracket regarding man management. |