The Premier League 2024/25
(03-09-2024, 08:20 PM)Salvatore Matrecano Wrote: Didnt QPR escape a deduction with similar reasons about 10 years back?

Didn’t QPR initially get away with overspending in the Championship due to being promoted to the PL but then got hit with a £50m fine or something on relegation?
Reply
Surely we should be asking the question what the difference is
Reply
yep hope our lawyers are looking at this maybe we could get 4 pts bonus
Reply
Time to move on. The rules are S**t, but changing at end of season. The PL is a dysfunctional organisation.
One of the reasons they gave points deductions to us and Everton was to prove that the Government didn't need to regulate and change the status-quo, but it only did the opposite.
Reply
(04-09-2024, 08:37 AM)optimistic_red Wrote: Time to move on. The rules are S**t, but changing at end of season. The PL is a dysfunctional organisation.
One of the reasons they gave points deductions to us and Everton was to prove that the Government didn't need to regulate and change the status-quo, but it only did the opposite.

To be clear the PL wanted to punish Leicester, the independent committee felt the circumstances weren’t valid. In other words there was no conspiracy to penalise Forest and Everton but not Leicester.

However as you say it does add yet another layer of incompetence to the whole regulation and proves the need for total change which Im not sure we have.
Reply
If Burnley for example had decided at the end of May after their relegation was confirmed to go out and spend £200m to build a promotion winning squad and did all their spending before 30th June, by the Leicester ruling they would be untouchable.
Reply
(04-09-2024, 09:52 AM)Salvatore Matrecano Wrote: If Burnley for example had decided at the end of May after their relegation was confirmed to go out and spend £200m to build a promotion winning squad and did all their spending before 30th June, by the Leicester ruling they would be untouchable.

Isn't the significant moment the date on which the accounts are published, not when the spending happens? As I understand it, Leicester exploited the loophole by moving their accounting date.

But now this precedence has been set, if we got relegated this season, we could move our accounting date out of the premier league window and take advantage of the loophole too by saying the prem has no jurisdiction as we're not a member. So if we have a poor season we could take advantage too. With the clubs doing dodgy deals between themselves a few months ago, and now this ruling, this whole psr idea seems to be imploding on itself. Now 'big' clubs are getting sucked in, the allowances are bound to increase.
Reply
I also believe that Leicester haven't dodged a points deduction this season completely, they've just won last season's argument. They're still going to have to submit their accounts and demonstrate that they haven't exceeded the psr limits for this latest last 3 year cycle. So they'll get two lots of premier league allowance but now a championship year. And as we found out, they'll have to swallow their promotion bonuses. Their costs for sacking Brendan Rogers were enormous and the wage bill when they were relegated was huge. As we did last year I'm sure they'll fail and be charged in January.
Reply
(04-09-2024, 01:28 PM)Paplane Wrote: I also believe that Leicester haven't dodged a points deduction this season completely, they've just won last season's argument. They're still going to have to submit their accounts and demonstrate that they haven't exceeded the psr limits for this latest last 3 year cycle. So they'll get two lots of premier league allowance but now a championship year. And as we found out, they'll have to swallow their promotion bonuses. Their costs for sacking Brendan Rogers were enormous and the wage bill when they were relegated was huge. As we did last year I'm sure they'll fail and be charged in January.

The only thing is though they sold a few players (eg KDH) and got rid of some big earners (eg Maddison, Tielemens) and having spent much since gaining promotion so will probably sneak within the limits. Don’t they also have parachute payments for additional income last year?
Reply
aye KDH was pure profit as well.
Reply
Chelsea have been cleared over the sale of two hotels to a sister company to keep them compliant with profit and sustainability rules.


Oh just f**k off now Premier League.
Reply
(04-09-2024, 08:26 PM)Salvatore Matrecano Wrote: Chelsea have been cleared over the sale of two hotels to a sister company to keep them compliant with profit and sustainability rules.


Oh just f**k off now Premier League.

So that's Chelsea and Man Utd who have been helped out directly to ensure they pass... while they went for Leicester but there utter incompetence caused them to fail.

Is it me or is there something fishy going on?
Reply
(04-09-2024, 08:49 PM)Plymouth red Wrote:
(04-09-2024, 08:26 PM)Salvatore Matrecano Wrote: Chelsea have been cleared over the sale of two hotels to a sister company to keep them compliant with profit and sustainability rules.


Oh just f**k off now Premier League.

So that's Chelsea and Man Utd who have been helped out directly to ensure they pass... while they went for Leicester but there utter incompetence caused them to fail.

Is it me or is there something fishy going on?

Are you suggesting corruption? No thats definitely just you mate. Don’t know how you could possibly think such a nasty thing of that lovely organisation.
Reply
I think what’s really annoyed them is they’ve tried to relegate both us and Everton and failed
Reply
(04-09-2024, 09:21 PM)Fumanchew Wrote: I think what’s really annoyed them is they’ve tried to relegate both us and Everton and failed

In fairness to Leicester, they've also looked to get them relegated as well. It's just a combination of smart lawyers and incompetent law makers that meant they didn't. 

I've mellowed that Leicester did not get punished - it is more that a) the rules are not fit for purpose and b) those administering the premier league are not fit for purpose that angers me. The double standards as to what Is allowed to be included as part of psr also gets me. No transparency, no integrity. 

 And ultimately If they fail on these basics, I can imagine they will completely fail to make any of the 115 charges against Man City stick. They must be piddling themselves with laughter as to what they are going up against
Reply


Forum Jump: