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15-09-2023, 02:10 PM
Just going to focus on the next little before we have another international break (ughhhhh):
4 games
Burnley (H)
Man City (A)
Brentford (H)
Palace (A)
So feels like a real opportunity for 6-9 points, could easily end up being 2-4 also or worse. Feels like a critical part of the season where we can define where we're going to be fighting in the table and hopefully give Cooper some breathing room in case of a bad run at some point (after Luton we have a potentially tricky run against four top half teams so we want a cushion before that run).
The fixture list has added so much unfair pressure on the team due to having such a tough opening run, real pressure to continue to stack home wins even though it's unrealistic to expect to win every home game.
So Burnley up with Man City away to come, lose or draw with Burnley and you're likely looking at 1 or 0 from two so pressure is on. I would take a similar scenario to Sheff U, don't care how we play, just rack up another win and can relax and get City away out of the way.
Then Brentford, who we outplayed without Toney last year at the CG and matched well at their place so feels like we have their number a little bit. Same with Palace to a lesser extent, expect a tight game with few chances, very winnable, also very loseable. Good indicators of where we are as a team given we're thinking these are the teams we were hoping to compete with in the table this year. An exciting, albeit nervy month ahead. If we somehow got 7 or even 9 points (very unlikely), just think how well we'd be set and also how tasty the league position would look.
I predict 5, win won of the home games, lose to City, draw two which would be ok with me.
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5 points would be good
6 or more excellent.
Whilst we are confidently predicting some positive results its well worth remembering how far we have come. Because exactly 2 years ago today this happened.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/58483585
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(15-09-2023, 02:28 PM)Salvatore Matrecano Wrote: 5 points would be good
6 or more excellent.
Whilst we are confidently predicting some positive results its well worth remembering how far we have come. Because exactly 2 years ago today this happened.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/58483585
It's insane that we got promoted (almost automatically too) after that start.
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15-09-2023, 03:08 PM
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(15-09-2023, 02:28 PM)Salvatore Matrecano Wrote: 5 points would be good
6 or more excellent.
Whilst we are confidently predicting some positive results its well worth remembering how far we have come. Because exactly 2 years ago today this happened.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/58483585
1 Horvath
6 Mbe Soh Substituted for Richardson at 74'minutes
4 Worrall
26 McKenna
15 Lowe
20 Johnson
22 Yates Booked at 68mins
37 Garner Substituted for Lolley at 67'minutes
11 Zinckernagel
7 Grabban
33 Taylor Substituted for Costa Silva at 66'minutes
Substitutes
3 Figueiredo
10 Carvalho
18 Ribeiro Dias
19 Costa Silva
23 Lolley
30 Samba
45 Richardson
Worrall, McKenna and Yates the only remaining players from that day.
Lowe, Johnson and Garner playing PL.
Samba flying in Ligue 1
Zinckernagel at Club Brugge
Horvath in no mans land.
Figueiredo playing in Serie A Brazil
Oh... and Middlesbrough the strongest team in the Championship... holding everyone else up.
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This was how we were last season after 8 games (1 postponed Cus of the queen)
4 straight defeats:
6-0 City Away
3-2 Bournemouth home
3-2 Fulham home
4-0 Leicester away
We’ll definitely do better then that return, and we already have more points then we did at GW5
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Im going 7 points Palace is a point away win both home games and a spirited performance away at city who have the start of the CL to contend with this week
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16-09-2023, 06:30 PM
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Correct me if i'm wrong, but I seem to think we were the last team to take any points from Man City. The draw at our place, last season, was the last point they dropped.
How awesome would it be if we were the side to take the first point(s) from them this season :cool:
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(16-09-2023, 06:30 PM)Tricky Wrote: Correct me if i'm wrong, but I seem to think we were the last team to take any points from Man City. The draw at our place, last season, was the last point they dropped.
How awesome would it be if we were the side to take the first point(s) from them this season :cool:
Alas no. After they won the League last season they drew with Brighton and lost to Brentford.
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No quite Tricky, they didn’t win either of their last 2 league games last season and lost to Brentford last day. Assume they were a bit hungover though and had nothing to play for. Didnt win Community Shield either.
However The last time they lost points in a meaningful Premier League game ie when there was something to play for was indeed at the CG.
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(16-09-2023, 06:40 PM)Salvatore Matrecano Wrote: No quite Tricky, they didn’t win either of their last 2 league games last season and lost to Brentford last day. Assume they were a bit hungover though and had nothing to play for. Didnt win Community Shield either.
However The last time they lost points in a meaningful Premier League game ie when there was something to play for was indeed at the CG.
We were the last team to take points off a sober Man City :Drink:
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(16-09-2023, 06:54 PM)Paplane Wrote: (16-09-2023, 06:40 PM)Salvatore Matrecano Wrote: No quite Tricky, they didn’t win either of their last 2 league games last season and lost to Brentford last day. Assume they were a bit hungover though and had nothing to play for. Didnt win Community Shield either.
However The last time they lost points in a meaningful Premier League game ie when there was something to play for was indeed at the CG.
We were the last team to take points off a sober Man City :Drink:
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(15-09-2023, 02:10 PM)wassy04 Wrote: Just going to focus on the next little before we have another international break (ughhhhh):
4 games
Burnley (H)
Man City (A)
Brentford (H)
Palace (A)
So feels like a real opportunity for 6-9 points, could easily end up being 2-4 also or worse. Feels like a critical part of the season where we can define where we're going to be fighting in the table and hopefully give Cooper some breathing room in case of a bad run at some point (after Luton we have a potentially tricky run against four top half teams so we want a cushion before that run).
The fixture list has added so much unfair pressure on the team due to having such a tough opening run, real pressure to continue to stack home wins even though it's unrealistic to expect to win every home game.
So Burnley up with Man City away to come, lose or draw with Burnley and you're likely looking at 1 or 0 from two so pressure is on. I would take a similar scenario to Sheff U, don't care how we play, just rack up another win and can relax and get City away out of the way.
Then Brentford, who we outplayed without Toney last year at the CG and matched well at their place so feels like we have their number a little bit. Same with Palace to a lesser extent, expect a tight game with few chances, very winnable, also very loseable. Good indicators of where we are as a team given we're thinking these are the teams we were hoping to compete with in the table this year. An exciting, albeit nervy month ahead. If we somehow got 7 or even 9 points (very unlikely), just think how well we'd be set and also how tasty the league position would look.
I predict 5, win won of the home games, lose to City, draw two which would be ok with me.
Just the two points so far with one game still to play.
Panic on the streets of London
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