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(15-03-2019, 01:33 PM)NG3 Wrote: Our recruitment been poor at times in recent years, there's no getting away from it & a big part of that is the damage done to the club under the Fawaz years, for half a decade we had no real scouting network & no coherent transfer strategy & this is an obvious issue as any transfer strategy has to be club-centric, so has to include, but go beyond the managers.
The club has tried to implement this sort of thing but suffers from the fact the owners do not have a local connection, or history & therefore when implementing a strategy it will be based on what they know, with the downside being what they know suits Oly, in their home country, but what works for Oly won't necessarily work over here.
Under Mark Warburton we became reliant on Frank McParland, who is a good DoF, but who wanted more autonomy than the club (& probably the modern game) was willing to grant & when there was unwillingness to even cast an eye over club recommendations it lead to a fall out between Frank McParland & Ioannis Vrentzos that lead to McParland leaving, making Warburton's position untenable, & leading to him leaving the club also.
Karanka swung the other way, saying yes to everyone & everything & still demanding more in an uncontrolled, scattergun spending spree that would have lead to disaster under the last regime & lead to us being unbalanced this season & as we've seen of late effectively hamstringing us at the first sign of a problem.
What we need, at present, is a strong, experienced manager, one who is proven & who can help implement a transfer strategy that not only suits there personal needs but that can work effectively with the club to build the relevant recruitment structure.
We don't need a manager that will ignore the club, or it's suggestions, nor one that will just greedily say yes to everything, instead we need a manager who can stand on his own two feet, & recruit by himself, but who is also willing to work with the club, reviewing & critiquing their suggestions & advising the club on how to refine their strategy & improve the quality of target they are looking at.
Sheer bloody poetry.
Now we have the 'dream ticket' of MoN/Keane...
THIS is our chance.
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Some brilliant posts, from NG3 & Sniffer Dog in particular.
Alarm bells rang for me both with Carvalho's & Soudani's signings. 16m those pair have cost us, SIXTEEN MIL. Between them they have less goals than Matty Cash.
We've tried to blag it with players simply not up to it. The question should always be "how many top 6 teams would have this player in their first team?" If - like Soudani, Ansarifard, Dias, Hef etc. - the answer is "none" they shouldn't even be considered if promotion is the immediate objective.
Now that's not to say I'm against players coming like Ansarifard or Dias who need time to develop, but the expectancy level has to be adjusted in that case. If MON is expected to develop players next season then he needs his contract extending by another 12 months in order to do that. Unless that happens, then he's got 1 season to get us up, development takes a back seat, and signing at least five top 6 players is priotity 1.
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Ansarifard said in the Greek press yesterday that he has struggled to adapt to the Championship. He didn't expect it to be so tough.
99.9% sure he will be gone in the summer.
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(22-03-2019, 09:09 PM)Sniffer Dog Wrote: Ansarifard said in the Greek press yesterday that he has struggled to adapt to the Championship. He didn't expect it to be so tough.
99.9% sure he will be gone in the summer.
And there in lies the 'rub' with Forest's Summer transfer work.
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Lica, Pierra, Dias, Goncalves, Derbyshire, Djebour, Abdoun, Kapino, Bouchalakis, Ansarifard, Tachstidis.
If we haven't learned our lesson now then we never will.
We need a change of policy.
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(28-03-2019, 11:04 AM)Sniffer Dog Wrote: Lica, Pierra, Dias, Goncalves, Derbyshire, Djebour, Abdoun, Kapino, Bouchalakis, Ansarifard, Tachstidis.
If we haven't learned our lesson now then we never will.
We need a change of policy.
we should have stopped after abdoun and djebbour.
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Ive just been reading about Chuba Akpom, if you remember he played 7 games on loan here in 2015 and looked distinctly average. He subsequently played for both Hull and Brighton wothout ever making the grade.
Now guess what, he is tearing it up for PAOK who are almost certainly going to win the Greek league. If ever there was proof that greek football is nothing like the Championship, average players look good there. No direspect to your homeland Sniffer! Its just the harsh truth.
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(28-03-2019, 11:04 AM)Sniffer Dog Wrote: Lica, Pierra, Dias, Goncalves, Derbyshire, Djebour, Abdoun, Kapino, Bouchalakis, Ansarifard, Tachstidis.
If we haven't learned our lesson now then we never will.
We need a change of policy.
You missed Lars Veldwijk!
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(29-03-2019, 06:04 PM)Salvatore Matrecano Wrote: Ive just been reading about Chuba Akpom, if you remember he played 7 games on loan here in 2015 and looked distinctly average. He subsequently played for both Hull and Brighton wothout ever making the grade.
Now guess what, he is tearing it up for PAOK who are almost certainly going to win the Greek league. If ever there was proof that greek football is nothing like the Championship, average players look good there. No direspect to your homeland Sniffer! Its just the harsh truth.
I thought Akpom looked awful for us, worse than Velios, Veldwijk, Ward or Bentner.
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(29-03-2019, 07:48 PM)Username Wrote: (29-03-2019, 06:04 PM)Salvatore Matrecano Wrote: Ive just been reading about Chuba Akpom, if you remember he played 7 games on loan here in 2015 and looked distinctly average. He subsequently played for both Hull and Brighton wothout ever making the grade.
Now guess what, he is tearing it up for PAOK who are almost certainly going to win the Greek league. If ever there was proof that greek football is nothing like the Championship, average players look good there. No direspect to your homeland Sniffer! Its just the harsh truth.
I thought Akpom looked awful for us, worse than Velios, Veldwijk, Ward or Bentner.
Bloody hell!
That takes some doing. We have recruited some serious dross over the last 4/5 years.
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(29-03-2019, 06:04 PM)Salvatore Matrecano Wrote: Ive just been reading about Chuba Akpom, if you remember he played 7 games on loan here in 2015 and looked distinctly average. He subsequently played for both Hull and Brighton wothout ever making the grade.
Now guess what, he is tearing it up for PAOK who are almost certainly going to win the Greek league. If ever there was proof that greek football is nothing like the Championship, average players look good there. No direspect to your homeland Sniffer! Its just the harsh truth.
I couldn't agree more mate. Greek Football is absolute dog turd.
I am the first to admit it.
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