Nottingham Forest - Swansea City
(29-11-2020, 03:17 PM)Username Wrote:
(29-11-2020, 03:12 PM)wassy04 Wrote:
(29-11-2020, 03:05 PM)ThePromisedLand Wrote: Not. Good. Enough.
The current management ( ownership & coaching staff ) need to grasp the nettle. Ditch the players that are just taking the money ( and there are quite a few going through the motions ) & build properly on what would still be a solid base ( inc the likes of Swan, Mighten, Johnson etc ).
Rome wasn’t built overnight.
Accept the inevitable & start planning for next season - NOW.

Yeah exactly and don't sack CH unless we actually get relegated!

Who would you want to see from this year's team next season then? (Assuming we avoid relegation)

From today’s team 

Samba
Ribeiro 
McKenna 
Yates
Ameobi 
Lolley 

Figs is a more than capable back-up

Possibly Knockaert but not if Fulham are looking to recoup what they spent.

Sign nobody in January.
Send Knockaert back ( far too expensive ).
Cull the squad down to a manageable number - flesh out by utilising Mighten, Johnson, Swan etc.
Retain Hughton & plan properly.
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(29-11-2020, 03:31 PM)ThePromisedLand Wrote:
(29-11-2020, 03:17 PM)Username Wrote:
(29-11-2020, 03:12 PM)wassy04 Wrote:
(29-11-2020, 03:05 PM)ThePromisedLand Wrote: Not. Good. Enough.
The current management ( ownership & coaching staff ) need to grasp the nettle. Ditch the players that are just taking the money ( and there are quite a few going through the motions ) & build properly on what would still be a solid base ( inc the likes of Swan, Mighten, Johnson etc ).
Rome wasn’t built overnight.
Accept the inevitable & start planning for next season - NOW.

Yeah exactly and don't sack CH unless we actually get relegated!

Who would you want to see from this year's team next season then? (Assuming we avoid relegation)

From today’s team 

Samba
Ribeiro 
McKenna 
Yates
Ameobi 
Lolley 

Figs is a more than capable back-up

Possibly Knockaert but not if Fulham are looking to recoup what they spent.

Sign nobody in January.
Send Knockaert back ( far too expensive ).
Cull the squad down to a manageable number - flesh out by utilising Mighten, Johnson, Swan etc.
Retain Hughton & plan properly.

Fully on board with you there TPL.
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(29-11-2020, 03:31 PM)ThePromisedLand Wrote:
(29-11-2020, 03:17 PM)Username Wrote:
(29-11-2020, 03:12 PM)wassy04 Wrote:
(29-11-2020, 03:05 PM)ThePromisedLand Wrote: Not. Good. Enough.
The current management ( ownership & coaching staff ) need to grasp the nettle. Ditch the players that are just taking the money ( and there are quite a few going through the motions ) & build properly on what would still be a solid base ( inc the likes of Swan, Mighten, Johnson etc ).
Rome wasn’t built overnight.
Accept the inevitable & start planning for next season - NOW.

Yeah exactly and don't sack CH unless we actually get relegated!

Who would you want to see from this year's team next season then? (Assuming we avoid relegation)

From today’s team 

Samba
Ribeiro 
McKenna 
Yates
Ameobi 
Lolley 

Figs is a more than capable back-up

Possibly Knockaert but not if Fulham are looking to recoup what they spent.

Sign nobody in January.
Send Knockaert back ( far too expensive ).
Cull the squad down to a manageable number - flesh out by utilising Mighten, Johnson, Swan etc.
Retain Hughton & plan properly.

Cutting squad down is not necessarily that easy, why would anyone take some of these players. Getting rid of the squad players but not replacing them will surely not make us any better?
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(29-11-2020, 03:31 PM)ThePromisedLand Wrote: Sign nobody in January.
Send Knockaert back ( far too expensive ).
Cull the squad down to a manageable number - flesh out by utilising Mighten, Johnson, Swan etc.
Retain Hughton & plan properly.

Sign 15 players in January
Spunk £10M on Knockaert and another load on an unfit 32 year old Grosicki
Flog Mighten, Johnson and Worrall to pay for it
Sack Hughton on 1st Feb
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14 signings and at the moment, you'd give a pass mark to 2 of them: McKenna & Taylor. Absolutely amazing how we continue to be so poor in the transfer market. Not sure where we go from here, too many 'experienced' players look like they are here to coast & pick up their wages.

I thought we started well & Ameobi was good until his pea-hearted effort at defending their goal. Knockaert had lively moments but eventually gave up. Yates put himself about really well but offers nothing when he has the ball. Figs was awful, McKenna good. Taylor would be very good in a team that could attack well.
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(29-11-2020, 03:36 PM)wassy04 Wrote:
(29-11-2020, 03:31 PM)ThePromisedLand Wrote:
(29-11-2020, 03:17 PM)Username Wrote:
(29-11-2020, 03:12 PM)wassy04 Wrote:
(29-11-2020, 03:05 PM)ThePromisedLand Wrote: Not. Good. Enough.
The current management ( ownership & coaching staff ) need to grasp the nettle. Ditch the players that are just taking the money ( and there are quite a few going through the motions ) & build properly on what would still be a solid base ( inc the likes of Swan, Mighten, Johnson etc ).
Rome wasn’t built overnight.
Accept the inevitable & start planning for next season - NOW.

Yeah exactly and don't sack CH unless we actually get relegated!

Who would you want to see from this year's team next season then? (Assuming we avoid relegation)

From today’s team 

Samba
Ribeiro 
McKenna 
Yates
Ameobi 
Lolley 

Figs is a more than capable back-up

Possibly Knockaert but not if Fulham are looking to recoup what they spent.

Sign nobody in January.
Send Knockaert back ( far too expensive ).
Cull the squad down to a manageable number - flesh out by utilising Mighten, Johnson, Swan etc.
Retain Hughton & plan properly.

Cutting squad down is not necessarily that easy, why would anyone take some of these players. Getting rid of the squad players but not replacing them will surely not make us any better?

What’s wrong with these players Wassy? Given how much you lauded their arrival surely they’ll be in high demand?

There’s a whole thread dedicated to the insightfulness of the collective as to how great they are.
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(29-11-2020, 03:37 PM)Salvatore Matrecano Wrote:
(29-11-2020, 03:31 PM)ThePromisedLand Wrote: Sign nobody in January.
Send Knockaert back ( far too expensive ).
Cull the squad down to a manageable number - flesh out by utilising Mighten, Johnson, Swan etc.
Retain Hughton & plan properly.

Sign 15 players in January
Spunk £10M on Knockaert and another load on an unfit 32 year old Grosicki
Flog Mighten, Johnson and Worrall to pay for it
Sack Hughton on 1st Feb

That’s scarily possible.
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The thing is... a few have been saying a lot of what is being said now for a while.

The ownership and running of this club is so poor. Yes we may be in a better place off the pitch but what use is that if you haven't got a clue how to run a club on the pitch.

I have a lot of respect for sniff and this forum but I do remember the post saying some supporters were going to look very stupid when it all turns out wonderful. But this was done because a few dared to question what was happening. As a fan that is a right we have. No one should be immune to being questioned when it's not going well and it hasn't been going well for the best part of a year now.

I have said time and time again that signing 14 players was a mistake. A squad that had shown massive strides forward needed 3, 4 or 5 additions not 14. How do this players left here feel about that, that it is that easy to be replaced. And as a poster above said... how many of those signings have been any good??? Defensively we are terrible. And we are not scoring goals so even the suggestion that McKenna and taylor have been good is questionable

I want answers from the club.

I want to know exactly what our transfer policy is.

I want to know why we felt the need to sign so many players to an already over inflated squad.

I want to know what em is doing behind the scenes and who he is holding accountable for this season.

We are in a relegation fight and em, as the owner, is the one the book stops at. He may not influence directly what happens on the pitch but it's his club, his decision making and ultimately his responsibility.

We as fans deserved answers and clarity. This club had long been a joke and it has not changed under this ownership they cant even get a new stand green lit.

I am in no way calling for em to go before anyone starts. But he has to show that he can learn from mistakes. Sabri didnt learn and he has gone.
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(29-11-2020, 03:00 PM)Salvatore Matrecano Wrote:
(29-11-2020, 02:56 PM)ozzyten10 Wrote: Shocking display...nothing to look forward to from that insipid performance... crap

I totally get you are frustrated mate we all are, but I dont think we were either shocking or crap. There was effort out there but not nothing is going our way. Fully accept you make your own luck though.

I'm glad that somebody else was watching the same match that I was. I actually thought todays was our best performance yet this season. Some of the refereeing decisions were questionable to be honest. I thought we did alright. 

There is a concern about our top third, I admit, maybe still not enough support from an ACM, but otherwise, I was disappointed with the score but not with the performance.......................or have I become immune to mediocrity?
"It's Tricky to rock a rhyme, to rock a rhyme that's right on time, it's Trickay, It's Tricky, Tricky, Tricky Tricky" - Run DMC
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(29-11-2020, 03:56 PM)Tricky Wrote:
(29-11-2020, 03:00 PM)Salvatore Matrecano Wrote:
(29-11-2020, 02:56 PM)ozzyten10 Wrote: Shocking display...nothing to look forward to from that insipid performance... crap

I totally get you are frustrated mate we all are, but I dont think we were either shocking or crap. There was effort out there but not nothing is going our way. Fully accept you make your own luck though.

I'm glad that somebody else was watching the same match that I was. I actually thought todays was our best performance yet this season. Some of the refereeing decisions were questionable to be honest. I thought we did alright. 

There is a concern about our top third, I admit, maybe still not enough support from an ACM, but otherwise, I was disappointed with the score but not with the performance.......................or have I become immune to mediocrity?
Did alright????

We lost

We conceded a soft goal again through terrible defending.

We had one shot on target and never looked like threatening.

We are too slow in possession and make to many mistakes. 

If this is alright then we are truly fooked this season.
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The point I was making above is that this game viewed in isolation we played reasonably well. The problem is though we still dont convert chances and we have brain freeze moments at the back. Do that for 14 games and you have a side that is deep in relegation trouble.
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If that was the best performance of the season then you can understand why we are the 3rd worst side in the league and are bang in trouble.

0 shots on target after going behind. Pretty damning stuff.
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