(13-02-2019, 07:38 PM)TheGreenMan Wrote: Agree with everyone on that list apart from Carvalho, we seriously can’t get rid. Rather O’Neill went then Carvalho. Players of that calibre are hard to come by in this league.   

(13-02-2019, 03:53 PM)McDurban Wrote: With MoN thus far favouring 4-1-4-1 or 4-5-1, I do not see a future for Carvalho unless he can adapt to a deeper role.
So for this reason I've added him to the sell/loan/retire list.

GK
TBA
Costel Pantilimon

RB
TBA
Tendayi Darikwa

LB
Jack Robinson
TBA

CB
Tobias Figueiredo
Joe Worrall
Alexander Milosevic
Yohan Benalouane
Michael Hefele
TBA

WIDE
TBA
Joe Lolley
TBA
Matty Cash
Arvin Appiah


CM
Ryan Yates
TBA (Colback)
TBA
Claudio Yacob
TBA

ST
Lewis Grabban
TBA
TBA
Daryl Murphy (I like him)


SELL/LOAN/RETIRE
Luke Steele (not bothered if he stays or goes)
Jordan Smith (not good enough)
Michael Dawson  (time to hang up the boots)
Liam Bridcutt (lost his way)
Adlène Guédioura (will decline considerably)
Ben Watson (will decline considerably)
Panagiotis Tachtsidis (unless MoN fancies him in a 4-1-4-1/4-5-1)
João Carvalho (formation problem)
Zach Clough (lost his way)
El Arbi Hillel Soudani (sick note)
Gboly Ariyibi (not good enough)
Ben Osborn (he isn't running the show)
Jorge Grant (not good enough)
Apostolos Vellios (terminal decline)
Jason Cummings (nutcase)
Karim Ansarifard (will never settle)

(13-02-2019, 03:03 PM)NG3 Wrote:

(13-02-2019, 02:50 PM)Strawberry Avenger Wrote:

(13-02-2019, 02:46 PM)Widdow Wrote: As I think this season is now very difficult to get in top 6, I believe we should start to bed in players now for next season. We don't need to keep relying on the likes of Ben "Ave it" Watson or Murphy up front. Yates shows you can play the youngsters, so lets see who can make the next step up.

That would help us work out what we need and who we can get rid of come the summer.

Decent post, Widdow. 

SA.  :cool:

I don't think managers have the luxury of being able to write of seasons prematurely.

Yes we should have used Ryan, & possibly others, earlier & yes we should have alternatives in mind for ageing players like Watson & Murphy etc., but these are things we should have been looking at last summer, not at the business end of the season.

It's one of the things I've been going on about for a long time, long term planning with regards to squad management & both recruitment & the integration of players from the academy, & with that in mind, if the play offs become mathematically impossible I'd expect to see the pace of experimentation increase, but for now we still have to balance getting results as well.

(13-02-2019, 08:36 PM)Strawberry Avenger Wrote:

(13-02-2019, 03:53 PM)McDurban Wrote: With MoN thus far favouring 4-1-4-1 or 4-5-1, I do not see a future for Carvalho unless he can adapt to a deeper role.
So for this reason I've added him to the sell/loan/retire list.

GK
TBA
Costel Pantilimon

RB
TBA
Tendayi Darikwa

LB
Jack Robinson
TBA

CB
Tobias Figueiredo
Joe Worrall
Alexander Milosevic
Yohan Benalouane
Michael Hefele
TBA

WIDE
TBA
Joe Lolley
TBA
Matty Cash
Arvin Appiah


CM
Ryan Yates
TBA (Colback)
TBA
Claudio Yacob
TBA

ST
Lewis Grabban
TBA
TBA
Daryl Murphy (I like him)


SELL/LOAN/RETIRE
Luke Steele (not bothered if he stays or goes)
Jordan Smith (not good enough)
Michael Dawson  (time to hang up the boots)
Liam Bridcutt (lost his way)
Adlène Guédioura (will decline considerably)
Ben Watson (will decline considerably)
Panagiotis Tachtsidis (unless MoN fancies him in a 4-1-4-1/4-5-1)
João Carvalho (formation problem)
Zach Clough (lost his way)
El Arbi Hillel Soudani (sick note)
Gboly Ariyibi (not good enough)
Ben Osborn (he isn't running the show)
Jorge Grant (not good enough)
Apostolos Vellios (terminal decline)
Jason Cummings (nutcase)
Karim Ansarifard (will never settle)

Wow.  Devastating.  A 16 player clear out.  (A lot of contracts up this Summer.)  Brutal.  But probably on point.  I winced reading the comments.  But it was fair enough.


Will 'Wraggy' stay in the Summer as a CH?  Maybe Pele as one of the CM..?

SA.

(13-02-2019, 10:08 PM)ThePromisedLand Wrote: If we’re to have the luxury of 6 full backs ( as per the suggestion ) I suggest that Preston & Richardson ( or Gabriel ) can fill 2 of those places.

(13-02-2019, 08:33 PM)PsychoStooge Wrote:

(13-02-2019, 07:38 PM)TheGreenMan Wrote: Agree with everyone on that list apart from Carvalho, we seriously can’t get rid. Rather O’Neill went then Carvalho. Players of that calibre are hard to come by in this league.   

Hear, hear!

(13-02-2019, 06:25 PM)NG3 Wrote:

(13-02-2019, 05:47 PM)Fumanchew Wrote: Don’t see anyone mentioning Walker, hopefully and oversight...

I omitted him for the same reason as Colback, because neither are presently contracted to us beyond the end of the season, so I treated them as left in the summer, although I did mention I'd like to see Watson pen a contract.

As for Tyler, he's old enough in his career that he'll want an input into his future & so that will be entirely dependent on what both parties want & what's on offer.

(13-02-2019, 05:30 PM)NG3 Wrote:

(13-02-2019, 04:46 PM)Sniffer Dog Wrote:

(13-02-2019, 04:39 PM)Sausage Roll Wrote: Yeah, let's right off someone who's had two pretty freakish random knee injuries as a sick note. That's a really fair assessment.

I already mentioned it on page 2 of this thread a few days ago that it would be foolish to write off Soudani.

Give him a pre-season to get 100% fit and then we can judge him better.

Yes, which is why he didn't make my discarded list.

If people remember the summer I was perhaps the most cautious/negative person on this forum with regards Soudani, his purchase was a bit of a gamble & there was foreseeable questions over a possible increasing susceptibility to injuries, along side the fact that he's unproven at this level, & if I'd been manager, hand on heart, I probably wouldn't have sanctioned his purchase at that price & on those wages, however the past is the past & you can't change that & so he is here & with his current injury will probably be hard to shift in the summer, so we're probably "stuck with him" & therefore should focus on aiding his recovery & evaluating him next season.

I'm still not optimistic about his future but the best option is to stick & try to get something out of him to offset the costs, & we might yet be pleasantly surprised.

(13-02-2019, 03:53 PM)McDurban Wrote: With MoN thus far favouring 4-1-4-1 or 4-5-1, I do not see a future for Carvalho unless he can adapt to a deeper role.
So for this reason I've added him to the sell/loan/retire list.

GK
TBA
Costel Pantilimon

RB
TBA
Tendayi Darikwa

LB
Jack Robinson
TBA

CB
Tobias Figueiredo
Joe Worrall
Alexander Milosevic
Yohan Benalouane
Michael Hefele
TBA

WIDE
TBA
Joe Lolley
TBA
Matty Cash
Arvin Appiah


CM
Ryan Yates
TBA (Colback)
TBA
Claudio Yacob
TBA

ST
Lewis Grabban
TBA
TBA
Daryl Murphy (I like him)


SELL/LOAN/RETIRE
Luke Steele (not bothered if he stays or goes)
Jordan Smith (not good enough)
Michael Dawson  (time to hang up the boots)
Liam Bridcutt (lost his way)
Adlène Guédioura (will decline considerably)
Ben Watson (will decline considerably)
Panagiotis Tachtsidis (unless MoN fancies him in a 4-1-4-1/4-5-1)
João Carvalho (formation problem)
Zach Clough (lost his way)
El Arbi Hillel Soudani (sick note)
Gboly Ariyibi (not good enough)
Ben Osborn (he isn't running the show)
Jorge Grant (not good enough)
Apostolos Vellios (terminal decline)
Jason Cummings (nutcase)
Karim Ansarifard (will never settle)

(14-02-2019, 02:33 PM)McDurban Wrote: It's not too bad.
Most have 1 1/2 years left.
To be honest I'm feeling bad about Carvalho now, I think he's a good player.

SELL/LOAN/RETIRE
Luke Steele 30.06.2020
Jordan Smith 30.06.2020
Michael Dawson  30.06.2020
Liam Bridcutt      30.06.2020
Guédioura          30.06.2020
Ben Watson        30.06.2020
Tachtsidis           30.06.2020
João Carvalho     30.06.2023
Zach Clough        30.06.2021
Soudani          30.06.2021
Gboly Ariyibi 30.06.2020
Ben Osborn 30.06.2020
Jorge Grant   30.06.2020
Apostolos Vellios 30.06.2020
Jason Cummings 30.06.2020
Karim Ansarifard 30.06.2020